Comments on: Ritualistic Nonsense! http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/ Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:25:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Rani http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-5917 Rani Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:27:50 +0000 http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/#comment-5917 Wow, this post is running for a year now. :) Wow, this post is running for a year now. :)

]]> By: Rani http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-5916 Rani Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:26:02 +0000 http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/#comment-5916 Good discussion. God is in each and everybody, Mr. Adi was laughing off chair, then he is God of laughter. May be even his wife would have smiled after a tiring pooja. Getting a smile on the face is so important, and i think now Adi you should ask ur wife to perform pooja's every now and then, so that something or the other will make you laugh. God is there to make you laugh/smile isn't? Good discussion.

God is in each and everybody, Mr. Adi was laughing off chair, then he is God of laughter. May be even his wife would have smiled after a tiring pooja. Getting a smile on the face is so important, and i think now Adi you should ask ur wife to perform pooja’s every now and then, so that something or the other will make you laugh. God is there to make you laugh/smile isn’t?

]]> By: Veena Shivanna http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-4727 Veena Shivanna Fri, 04 May 2007 10:07:37 +0000 http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/#comment-4727 Hogli bidi... just found it as good information. Logic ella apply maadidre aagalla ashTe :-) Hogli bidi… just found it as good information. Logic ella apply maadidre aagalla ashTe :-)

]]> By: Mysorean http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-4725 Mysorean Fri, 04 May 2007 09:56:42 +0000 http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/#comment-4725 <b>Veena:</b> I want her to spend some time with herself to start with to know if she knows what she is doing. Otherwise it is a total waste of time and effort. LOL@ the cat ritual. My points of opposition with the note on coconuts: <i>The marks on the coconut make it look like the head of a human being. The coconut is broken, symbolising the breaking of the ego</i> Looks like the head and symbolises something are all justifications to use it. You get what I mean? After we have started using it, people have tried to find reasons why we are using it and have arrived at the most probable list of reasons. That's it! There is no real sense in what they are saying. <i>Tender coconut water is used in abhisheka rituals since it is believed to bestow spiritual growth on the seeker.</i> Is <i><b>believed</b></i> to bestow? So they are not sure. <i>The coconut also symbolises selfless service...</i> One thing that i seem to agree with in the whole write-up. <i>The marks on the coconut are even thought to represent the three-eyed Lord Shiva</i> <i><b>Thought to</b></i> again?! Veena:
I want her to spend some time with herself to start with to know if she knows what she is doing. Otherwise it is a total waste of time and effort.
LOL@ the cat ritual.

My points of opposition with the note on coconuts:
The marks on the coconut make it look like the head of a human being. The coconut is broken, symbolising the breaking of the ego
Looks like the head and symbolises something are all justifications to use it. You get what I mean? After we have started using it, people have tried to find reasons why we are using it and have arrived at the most probable list of reasons. That’s it! There is no real sense in what they are saying.

Tender coconut water is used in abhisheka rituals since it is believed to bestow spiritual growth on the seeker.
Is believed to bestow? So they are not sure.

The coconut also symbolises selfless service…
One thing that i seem to agree with in the whole write-up.

The marks on the coconut are even thought to represent the three-eyed Lord Shiva
Thought to again?!

]]> By: Veena Shivanna http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-4704 Veena Shivanna Thu, 03 May 2007 13:20:55 +0000 http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/#comment-4704 About offering coconuts to GOD, here is a nice explanation.. ! ------------------------------------------------------------ In India one of the most common offerings in a temple is a coconut. It is also offered on occasions like weddings, festivals, the use of a new vehicle, bridge, house etc. It is offered in the sacrificial fire whilst performing homa. The coconut is broken and placed before the Lord. It is later distributed as prasaada. The fibre covering of the dried coconut is removed except for a tuft on the top. The marks on the coconut make it look like the head of a human being. The coconut is broken, symbolising the breaking of the ego. The juice within, representing the inner tendencies (vaasanas) is offered along with the white kernel - the mind, to the Lord. A mind thus purified by the touch of the Lord is used as prasaada ( a holy gift). In the traditional abhishekha ritual done in all temples and many homes, several materials are poured over the deity like milk, curd, honey, tender coconut water, sandal paste, holy ash etc. Each material has a specific significance of bestowing certain benefits on worshippers. Tender coconut water is used in abhisheka rituals since it is believed to bestow spiritual growth on the seeker. The coconut also symbolises selfless service. Every part of the tree -the trunk, leaves, fruit, coir etc. Is used in innumerable ways like thatches, mats, tasty dishes, oil, soap etc. It takes in even salty water from the earth and converts it into sweet nutritive water that is especially beneficial to sick people. It is used in the preparation of many ayurvedic medicines and in other alternative medicinal systems. The marks on the coconut are even thought to represent the three-eyed Lord Shiva and therefore it is considered to be a means to fulfill our desires About offering coconuts to GOD, here is a nice explanation.. !
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In India one of the most common offerings in a temple is a coconut. It is also offered on occasions like weddings, festivals, the use of a new vehicle, bridge, house etc. It is offered in the sacrificial fire whilst performing homa. The coconut is broken and placed before the Lord. It is later distributed as prasaada.
The fibre covering of the dried coconut is removed except for a tuft on the top. The marks on the coconut make it look like the head of a human being. The coconut is broken, symbolising the breaking of the ego. The juice within, representing the inner tendencies (vaasanas) is offered along with the white kernel – the mind, to the Lord.
A mind thus purified by the touch of the Lord is used as prasaada ( a holy gift). In the traditional abhishekha ritual done in all temples and many homes, several materials are poured over the deity like milk, curd, honey, tender coconut water, sandal paste, holy ash etc. Each material has a specific significance of bestowing certain benefits on worshippers. Tender coconut water is used in abhisheka rituals since it is believed to bestow spiritual growth on the seeker.
The coconut also symbolises selfless service. Every part of the tree -the trunk, leaves, fruit, coir etc. Is used in innumerable ways like thatches, mats, tasty dishes, oil, soap etc. It takes in even salty water from the earth and converts it into sweet nutritive water that is especially beneficial to sick people. It is used in the preparation of many ayurvedic medicines and in other alternative medicinal systems.

The marks on the coconut are even thought to represent the three-eyed Lord Shiva and therefore it is considered to be a means to fulfill our desires

]]> By: Veena Shivanna http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-4703 Veena Shivanna Thu, 03 May 2007 13:17:30 +0000 http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/#comment-4703 Ask her to spend some time with your mom for a better knowledge transition.. some are really good ones & we can enjoy doing that amidst our regular routines! One similar story, When a person was doing his pooja, he used to tie a cat under one one buTTi. When asked he said his dad & grand dad used to do it & hence he does. The actually story is this.. some 2-3 generations back, when the person x was doing his pooja his cat used to disturb his pooja & hence he just tied the cat & covered it using the butti & later released it after the pooja process. After few generations, it so happened that everybody thought tying cat was part of their pooja process itself. Its kind of half knowledge transferred annisutte. Ask her to spend some time with your mom for a better knowledge transition.. some are really good ones & we can enjoy doing that amidst our regular routines!
One similar story,
When a person was doing his pooja, he used to tie a cat under one one buTTi. When asked he said his dad & grand dad used to do it & hence he does. The actually story is this..
some 2-3 generations back, when the person x was doing his pooja his cat used to disturb his pooja & hence he just tied the cat & covered it using the butti & later released it after the pooja process.
After few generations, it so happened that everybody thought tying cat was part of their pooja process itself. Its kind of half knowledge transferred annisutte.

]]> By: adi http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1733 adi Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:48:00 +0000 http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/#comment-1733 <B>Shark:</B> But yeah, I ought to clarify that I have nothing against rituals done voluntarily. I am <B>against</B> <I>imposed</I> rituals. Shark:
But yeah, I ought to clarify that I have nothing against rituals done voluntarily. I am against imposed rituals.

]]> By: adi http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1732 adi Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:47:00 +0000 http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/#comment-1732 <B>Shark:</B> You got me! <B>Shruthi:</B> Thanks! Keep coming! Shark:
You got me!

Shruthi:
Thanks! Keep coming!

]]> By: Shruthi http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1731 Shruthi Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:34:00 +0000 http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/#comment-1731 Good post, and fantastic comments :) Shastri was telling me about you, Adi. going thro your posts... good ones. Good post, and fantastic comments :) Shastri was telling me about you, Adi. going thro your posts… good ones.

]]> By: shark http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1730 shark Fri, 11 Aug 2006 05:42:00 +0000 http://www.mysorean.com/2006/08/08/ritualistic-nonsense/#comment-1730 Sir.. heading? Ritualistic <B> nonsense</B> ? And fun part.. who fell off the chair laughing ;-)? Sir.. heading? Ritualistic nonsense ?

And fun part.. who fell off the chair laughing ;-)?

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